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Making & preserving gels

  • smlowry

I have some recipe ideas for cosmetic gels swimming around in my head. I want to make them using strong herbal tea, but years ago when I tried this with my creams they molded too quickly. I thought that making an herby tea to use as the water component would be awesome so I made a nice blend of herbs and used distilled (not tap) water for the tea. The cream was great but didn't last long. So now I use hydrosols if I want more than just plain distilled water. However the gels I have in mind would be made from specific wild-harvested herbs (like sweet fern, for example). I'm not sure that grapefruit seed extract alone is a strong enough preservative to prevent mold in this case, and I'm reluctant to use anything much stronger, unless someone knows of a safe, natural, unlikely-to-cause-skin-irritations/allergic reactions preservative. The sweet fern idea is because it's practically a miracle cure for poison ivy and I'd like to offer the gel as a product for sale. So it has to have a decent shelf life and not need refrigeration. Any suggestions?

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  • shamanaflora
  • shamanaflora

http://www.peacefulmountain.com/

these folks might have some info on preservative.. they sell widely their gels....

http://www.peacefulmountain.com/store/read_the_ingredients.php

 

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  • kiki

Thanks Darcy! We also had an EXHAUSTIVE and awesome discussion here from months ago that I will dig up. 

I also posted the question on Fbook. Here's what has come back so far:

 










 






Terrie Schultz I use a preservative in my lotions and creams that have a high percentage of water. I searched for a long time to find one that I thoght would be tolerable. It's called Geogard Ultra or Neodefend, depending on where you buy it. I use it at the lowest recommended concentration, 0.75%. It seems to work quite well.

 










 






Sara Stansbury Lotions and creams are about 81% water and easy to grow mold and bacteria. It is best to use a preservative to have a safe product. There are some natural preservatives, but they only last about three months.


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Kiki
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  • kiki

Found it!! 

Click HERE : it is a crazy amount of awesome info for us!

  • smlowry
  • smlowry

Thanks, Terrie, I will check that out. Also a trove of info in the forum topic Kiki linked to. Thank you.

  • smlowry
  • smlowry

Oh, and I'll def. check out the Peaceful Mountain site, Darcy. We sell their products in the store where I work.Thanks!

  • sheripie
  • sheripie

The link Kiki posted above is loaded with info! I can't add anything except personal experience.

I won't use synthetics and try to avoid preservatives but use Tinosan in water formulations, which is not naturally occuring but made from natural ingredients= Silver Citrate and Citric acid. It's effective against bacteria, yeast and mold in very small amounts (0.1% - 0.3%, though I've seen it recommended to use in combo with Potassium Sorbate for added protection against yeast & mold).

I'm not aware of any negatives (no known adverse effects on human health and classified as 'not hazardous' under OSHA regulations) except that it should not be used by people who have silver allergies. The downside for me when researching it was all the animal testing that's been done on it, but I guess that's unavoidable in the world we live in....

 

I don't know if this will work for your idea Susan, but here's how I get around all this for gels:

I infuse purchased aloe vera gel with dried plant material. The aloe vera already has Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid and Xanthan Gum added to preserve it. So as long as you don't introduce any water, you should be good to go!
 


:) sheri


Sheri Lee Pierce, Paradise City Herbal

http://www.theherbarie.com/Leucidal-Liquid--pr-439.html

Radish root ferment (aka Leucidal) is working well for me for creams. If your formula is mostly liquid I imagine you'd tend toward the 4% usage.

http://www.wildly-natural-skin-care.com
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  • Amber
  • Amber

I'm not sure if this has already been said but be sure to only use deionized or distilled water. It has made a huge difference at the shop I work at where we make all kinds of herbal lotions and skin care items by hand. We also use grapefruit seed extract and wheat germ oil. I alway strealize pots and utinsils with rubbing alcohol first too just to be safe.

  • cos4me
  • cos4me

i emailed this elsewhere on another post

Hi everyone,. i use Leucidal liquid as well but the best price i fouind sold online is the sample shop

i asked why they are able to have the lowest pricing vs other retailers and they said they are a sister company of the manufacturer. same stuff ive ordered it they ususally have free shipping

so its best  i order from them hiope this helps you

website is formulatorsampleshop.com  the link to their lecudials is

https://www.formulatorsampleshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=leucidal

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