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Poppy Swap Forum » Topic: Making & preserving gels http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels We Bring People Herbs. en-US Tue, 02 Sep 2014 11:33:05 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/search.php cos4me on "Making & preserving gels" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels#post-762
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Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:50:31 +0000
cos4me 762@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> i emailed this elsewhere on another post</p> <p> Hi everyone,. i use Leucidal liquid as well but the best price i fouind sold online is the sample shop</p> <p> i asked why they are able to have the lowest pricing vs other retailers and they said they are a sister company of the manufacturer. same stuff ive ordered it they ususally have free shipping</p> <p> so its best&nbsp; i order from them hiope this helps you</p> <p> website is <u>formulatorsampleshop.com&nbsp; </u>the link to their lecudials is</p> <p> <u><a href="https://www.formulatorsampleshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=leucidal">https://www.formulatorsampleshop.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=leucidal</a></u></p>
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:58:13 +0000
Amber 638@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I&#039;m not sure if this has already been said but be sure to only use deionized or distilled water. It has made a huge difference at the shop I work at where we make all kinds of herbal lotions and skin care items by hand. We also use grapefruit seed extract and wheat germ oil. I alway strealize pots and utinsils with rubbing alcohol first too just to be safe.</p>
Michelle Czolba on "Making & preserving gels" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels#post-637
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:53:57 +0000
Michelle Czolba 637@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <a href="http://www.theherbarie.com/Leucidal-Liquid--pr-439.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theherbarie.com/Leucidal-Liquid--pr-439.html</a></p> <p> Radish root ferment (aka Leucidal) is working well for me for creams. If your formula is mostly liquid I imagine you&#039;d tend toward the 4% usage.</p>
sheripie on "Making & preserving gels" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels#post-636
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:29:13 +0000
sheripie 636@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> The link Kiki posted above is loaded with info! I can&#039;t add anything except personal experience.</p> <p> I won&#039;t use synthetics and try to avoid preservatives but use Tinosan in water formulations, which is not naturally occuring but <span>made from natural ingredients= Silver Citrate and </span><span>Citric acid. It&#039;s effective against </span><span>bacteria, yeast and mold</span><span> in very small amounts (</span><span>0.1% - 0.3%, though I&#039;ve seen it recommended to use in combo with Potassium Sorbate for added protection against yeast &amp; mold).</span></p> <p> <span>I&#039;m not aware of any negatives (</span><span>no known adverse effects on human health and classified as &#039;not hazardous&#039; under OSHA regulations) </span><span>except that </span><span>it should not be used by people who have silver allergies. The downside for me when researching it was all the animal testing that&#039;s been done on it, but I guess that&#039;s unavoidable in the world we live in.... </span></p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> I don&#039;t know if this will work for your idea Susan, but h<span>ere&#039;s how I get around all this for gels:</span></p> <p> <span>I infuse </span><span>purchased aloe vera gel with </span><span>dried plant material. The aloe vera already has </span>Potassium Sorbate, Citric Acid and Xanthan Gum added to preserve it. So as long as you don&#039;t introduce any water, you should be good to go!<br /> &nbsp;</p> <p> <br /> :) sheri</p> <p> <br /> <em>Sheri Lee Pierce, Paradise City Herbal</em></p>
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:03:08 +0000
smlowry 635@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Oh, and I&#039;ll def. check out the Peaceful Mountain site, Darcy. We sell their products in the store where I work.Thanks!</p>
smlowry on "Making & preserving gels" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels#post-634
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:01:34 +0000
smlowry 634@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks, Terrie, I will check that out. Also a trove of info in the forum topic Kiki linked to. Thank you.</p>
kiki on "Making & preserving gels" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/making-preserving-gels#post-632
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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:00:19 +0000
kiki 632@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Found it!!&nbsp;</p> <p> Click&nbsp;<a href="http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/lets-talk-about-safesafe-ingredients-that-is#post-131">HERE </a>: it&nbsp;is a crazy amount of awesome info for us!</p>
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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:57:38 +0000
kiki 631@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks Darcy! We also had an EXHAUSTIVE and awesome discussion here from months ago that I will dig up.&nbsp;</p> <p> I also posted the question on Fbook. Here&#039;s what has come back so far:</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p><div><br /> <div class="UIImageBlock clearfix uiUfiActorBlock"><br /> <br /> <a class="actorPic UIImageBlock_Image UIImageBlock_SMALL_Image" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000339566030"><img alt="" src="https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/260631_100000339566030_1212591095_q.jpg" /></a><br /> <div class="UIImageBlock_Ext" style="float: right"><br /> <br /> <div class="uiSelector inlineBlock commentHideSelector stat_elem uiSelectorRight" style="vertical-align: top"><br /> <br /> <div class="wrap"><br /> &nbsp;</div><br /> </div><br /> </div><br /> <br /> <div class="commentContent UIImageBlock_Content UIImageBlock_SMALL_Content" style="vertical-align: top;width: 10000px;padding-top: 1px"><br /> <br /> <a class="actorName" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000339566030">Terrie Schultz</a>&nbsp;<span class="commentBody">I use a preservative in my lotions and creams that have a high percentage of water. I searched for a long time to find one that I thoght would be tolerable. It&#039;s called Geogard Ultra or Neodefend, depending on where you buy it. I use it at the lowest recommended concentration, 0.75%. It seems to work quite well.</span><br /> <div class="commentActions fsm fwn fcg" style="font-size: 11px;font-weight: normal;color: gray;padding-top: 2px"><br /> &nbsp;</div><br /> </div><br /> </div><br /> <div class="UIImageBlock clearfix uiUfiActorBlock"><br /> <a class="actorPic UIImageBlock_Image UIImageBlock_SMALL_Image" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=825242617"><img alt="" src="https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41392_825242617_7743_q.jpg" /></a><br /> <div class="UIImageBlock_Ext" style="float: right"><br /> <br /> <div class="uiSelector inlineBlock commentHideSelector stat_elem uiSelectorRight" style="vertical-align: top"><br /> <br /> <div class="wrap"><br /> &nbsp;</div><br /> </div><br /> </div><br /> <br /> <div class="commentContent UIImageBlock_Content UIImageBlock_SMALL_Content" style="vertical-align: top;width: 10000px;padding-top: 1px"><br /> <br /> <a class="actorName" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=825242617">Sara Stansbury</a>&nbsp;<span class="commentBody">Lotions and creams are about 81% water and easy to grow mold and bacteria. It is best to use a preservative to have a safe product. There are some natural preservatives, but they only last about three months.</span><br /> <div class="commentActions fsm fwn fcg" style="font-size: 11px;font-weight: normal;color: gray;padding-top: 2px"><br /> <br /> &lt;abbr class=&quot;timestamp livetimestamp&quot; data-utime=&quot;1329359077&quot; style=&quot;border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; &quot; title=&quot;Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 6:24pm&quot;&gt;31 minutes ago&lt;/abbr&gt;&nbsp;&middot;&nbsp;<span class="comment_like_2437446 fsm fwn fcg">&lt;button class=&quot;stat_elem as_link cmnt_like_link&quot; name=&quot;unlike_comment_id[2437446]&quot; style=&quot;background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; color: rgb(59, 89, 152); cursor: pointer; font-family: &#039;lucida grande&#039;, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; overflow-x: visible; overflow-y: visible; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: left; width: auto; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; &quot; title=&quot;Unlike this comment&quot; type=&quot;submit&quot; value=&quot;2437446&quot;&gt;<span class="default_message">Unlike</span>&lt;/button&gt;&nbsp;&middot;&nbsp;<a class="comment_like_button" href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/likes/?id=275903439146512" title=""><img alt="" src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/rsrc.php/v1/yw/r/drP8vlvSl_8.gif" />&nbsp;1</a></span></div><br /> </div><br /> </div></p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p></div> </p>
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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:37:39 +0000
shamanaflora 630@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <a href="http://www.peacefulmountain.com/">http://www.peacefulmountain.com/</a></p> <p> these folks might have some info on preservative.. they sell widely their gels....</p> <p> <a href="http://www.peacefulmountain.com/store/read_the_ingredients.php">http://www.peacefulmountain.com/store/read_the_ingredients.php</a></p> <p> &nbsp;</p>
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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:43:38 +0000
smlowry 628@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I have some recipe ideas for cosmetic gels swimming around in my head. I want to make them using strong herbal tea, but years ago when I tried this with my creams they molded too quickly. I thought that making an herby tea to use as the water component would be awesome so I made a nice blend of herbs and used distilled (not tap) water for the tea. The cream was great but didn&#039;t last long. So now I use hydrosols if I want more than just plain distilled water. However the gels I have in mind would be made from specific wild-harvested herbs (like sweet fern, for example). I&#039;m not sure that grapefruit seed extract alone is a strong enough preservative to prevent mold in this case, and I&#039;m reluctant to use anything much stronger, unless someone knows of a safe, natural, unlikely-to-cause-skin-irritations/allergic reactions preservative. The sweet fern idea is because it&#039;s practically a miracle cure for poison ivy and I&#039;d like to offer the gel as a product for sale. So it has to have a decent shelf life and not need refrigeration. Any suggestions?</p>