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Poppy Swap Forum » User Favorites: edensong edensong We Bring People Herbs. en-US Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:26:46 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/search.php kbredin on "Review of Susun Weed and Rosemary Gladstar's correspondence courses" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/review-of-susun-weed-and-rosemary-gladstars-correspondence-courses#post-2958
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kbredin 2958@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> This is great! Thanks Jadeswan for volunteering your review, and to all the others for sharing about their correspondence courses! I too have been looking for a good correspondence course, but not sure exactly what I want. I think I&#039;m leaning toward something more shamanistic as I prefer to work with the plants and people on a spirit level, and I&#039;m looking to help people in places where access to Western medicine/diagnosis is limited, so I&#039;m especially interested in figuring out ailments/healing solutions and/or matching plants with the people and what&#039;s going on for them. I could stand to gain more insight on the science side of things as well, but sometimes I wonder if studying too many modes can be conflicting. Anyway, the BC course sounds great. I&#039;ve apprenticed with Robin Rose Bennett and worked with Ryan Drum, but I&#039;m hoping to get a third course to become certified by the AHG. If anyone knows of any other correspondence courses in line with what I mentioned above, or can share any insight on working toward membership in the AHG, I would be glad to gain more insight/recommendations!</p> <p> I&#039;m happy to speak more on Robin&#039;s apprenticeship if anyone is interested in studying with her.</p>
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ayo 2917@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Also came across Midwest School of Herbal Studies&#039; Master Herbalist Diploma Program. &nbsp;Might anyone have any experience with that one too?</p> <p> Thanks!</p>
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ayo 2916@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I am interested in the Heart of Herbs Master Herbalist course to further continue my education. &nbsp;I am currently finishing up Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s course, and have found it excellent, but really want to continue studying herbs, as I feel we never stop learning, especially in the world of herbs. &nbsp;I don&#039;t live anywhere near an herbal school, so my only choice is distance learning.</p> <p> Can anyone tell me if the Heart of Herbs Master course would be good to continue on with after taking Rosemary&#039;s course? &nbsp;It&#039;s hard to tell from the synopsis if it will offer more, or different information beyond Rosemary&#039;s. &nbsp;</p> <p> Also, can anyone recommend any other Master Herbalist courses?</p> <p> I&#039;d appreciate any insight so I may continue my herbal education! :)</p>
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greenjourney 1020@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <img alt="natural sunscreen by good4you" src="http://greenjourneyblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sunglow.jpg?w=500" /></p> <p> Here&#039;s what I used this summer, thanks to good4you, and geko &amp; I did a great swap~~seeds for <a href="http://www.poppyswap.com/detail.asp?id=3783&amp;n=herbal-sun-protection-salve--lavender">sunscreen</a>! I used this all summer with good results, kept my face from burning from long hours working in the garden. I still have about half a tube left for fall &amp; winter! It has zinc oxide, as Kristie mentioned above, I had no ill effects, but I do wonder if I should use it every day? Titanium dioxide burns my skin imediately, and most natural sunscreen have that, too.</p> <p> Anyway, I really just want to recommend this as both a sunscreen and moisturizer. Fits in my pocket so I can take it with...smells great, too and feels nice on my face. <a href="http://www.poppyswap.com/storecatalog.asp?userid=296&amp;catid=677">good4you</a> is good4me <img alt="Heart" src="/smiles/heart.gif" title="Heart" />aline</p> <p> p.s. These nasturtium flowers are my sunglowiest yellow, and part of the nasturtium mix we sell here. Sold out for now but returning soon as the fresh batch is drying in the seed room right now!</p>
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Thu, 09 Aug 2012 05:45:23 +0000
blakelymabel 842@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I have done all three courses and loved them all for different reasons.</p> <p> Susun Weed&#039;s really needed self exploration from the student.</p> <p> Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s covered all of the basics. A little outdated, but great material overall. You can&#039;t go wrong with this course.</p> <p> Demetria Clark&#039;s was by far the hardest. Just reviewing the first lesson, which is an intro to the course is a little unfair I think. It is like 25 pages, out of almost 600. It is a good course, not perfect, none are, but the student support is top notch, you can call, email, facebook and she handles all over your needs personally. So I really liked that. Heart of Herbs also now has a complete multimedia eLearning classroom that all students can use, so that is cool.</p>
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Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:49:16 +0000
cos4me 761@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi everyone,. i use Leucidal liquid as well but the best price i fouind sold online is the sample shop</p> <p> i asked why they are able to have the lowest pricing vs other retailers and they said they are a sister company of the manufacturer. same stuff ive ordered it they ususally have free shipping</p> <p> so its best&nbsp; i order from them hiope this helps you</p> <p> website is <u>formulatorsampleshop.com</u></p> <p> if you email them at their info mail they will provide you with free shipping code</p>
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Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:50:25 +0000
SpiritHorseHerbals 640@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi all~</p> <p> GREAT discussion going on here...</p> <p> Susan, we have been discussing pricing on another forum post including how to &#039;cost out&#039; essential oils. Violet Herbs provides insight into how she calculates and DragonFly (Kathy) shares some software tips: <a href="http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/marketing-monday-the-path-to-pricing-freedom" rel="nofollow">http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/marketing-monday-the-path-to-pricing-freedom</a></p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> I have a question about NATURAL SUNCREEN. Do any of you here make it? And what are your thoughts about zinc oxide? To the best of my understanding this is the SPF part of it all. Saw a post today on Facebook which shared a natural recipe including zinc oxide.</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> LOVE!</p> <p> xo</p> <p> Kristie</p>
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Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:40:23 +0000
CedarMountainHerbSchool 639@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I use my witch hazel straight in replacement of liquid called for in a cream recipe. If the recipe calls for 1 cup of aloe juice, I replace it with 1 cup of witch hazel. My creams are not drying in the least.</p> <p> Incidentally, you can make herbal witch hazels using dried or fresh herbs and purchased witch hazel (the commercial type) the same way you&#039;d make a tincture. If you think about it, the medicine of a plant isn&#039;t normally in it&#039;s &quot;water,&quot; but in and around it&#039;s cells. Dried herbs are simply medicinals without water. The medicine is not dimished (perhaps slightly), if dried and stored well. Commercial witch hazel contains a high amount of water, so if you put in dried plant material, it will rehydrate the plant material. That doesn&#039;t really make any difference to the extraction process of medicinal constituents. So, in my opinion, the medicine of either fresh or dried plants can be extracted into witch hazel.</p> <p> I know that many people talk about the &quot;spirit&quot; or energy of the plant being more evident in fresh plants vs. dried. This is a whole other topic. Maybe someone can start that topic. I have to go get ready for my class - nervines!</p> <p> Talk to you all soon!</p>
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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:56:58 +0000
smlowry 633@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks to Kiki for directing me to this topic when I asked about natural preservatives for some gel ideas I have that I want to offer for sale this year!</p> <p> I&#039;ve been making my creams for about 7 or more years, salves much longer, and selling them for just about a year now, and in all those years I&#039;ve never had anyone gifted with them or who purchased them complain about something going bad or moldy. I have had some of my salves get rancid, but that&#039;s because they sat in the medicine cabinet for 5 or more years. I&#039;ve learned that salves generally last for 3 years, maybe more depending on where they are stored. Creams won&#039;t last that long, but then they are created to be used differently, slathered on sometimes, but definitely used daily and therefore a 2 ounce jar isn&#039;t going to outlast its shelf life. (Unless it&#039;s stored in the sun or in a hot, humid environment).</p> <p> I will not use synthetic fragrances at all. And though my Rose Cream is a reasonable price, it does contain both Rose Otto and Rose Absolute from Ananda Apothecary. These are among the most expensive EOs in my collection at this point. Figuring out how much to add to the cost of ingredients for essential oils is a learning experience for me and thus my offerings that contain more expensive EOs like the roses, German chamomile, etc. may need to increase in price at some point. But for now I&#039;m satisfied with the pricing structure. But I&#039;m quite curious how others figure out these kinds of costs. Things like ounces of oils, jars, etc. are fairly straightforward. EOs not so much. My goal is to offer the highest quality products at affordable prices thereby bring more people to the awareness of how wonderful all-natural, homemade skin care products can be.</p> <p> I am going to check out the offerings at The Herbarie, to see what might be good to experiment with for the gels I&#039;m wanting to make this year.</p> <p> Cedar Mountain School - I have a question about the witch hazel you use. Do you just add it to the product straight and how much? Generally I haven&#039;t added tinctures to my products because of the alcohol. I imagine in a gel, esp. one designed to heal itchy rashes, the alcohol won&#039;t be an issue, but in a cream? I like the idea of adding other herbs to it as well, esp. organic dried purchased herbs (since herbs I grow or harvest I can easily infuse in oils, but my sense is that dried herbs don&#039;t impart as many of their healing qualities in oil as fresh - which is why I swapped Tulsi Tincture for Arnica extract made with fresh arnica flowers here on Poppy Swap for my new &quot;Pain Ease&quot; cream).</p> <p> In general I chose the EOs (as well as Vit. E) in each product based on specific qualities I want the cream to have. Many of those qualities also aid in preservation. I&#039;m finding myself very drawn to EOs and want to learn as much about them as I can. But I don&#039;t have a scientific/chemist mind. I&#039;m more intuitive. So I read, take notes, let recipe ideas simmer below the surface, then suddenly one day it&#039;s time to create. I just know I&#039;ve figured out what I want to put into the next creation and though my previous knowledge and new knowledge absolutely play a part, it comes down to the creating when I make the final choices. There are certain things I know I want to include, but when it comes to the fine-tuning, that happens on the spot. (Of course I write everything down as I&#039;m going along). I cook the same way, using recipes as general guidelines rather than blueprints.</p> <p> I love the sharing and learning that come with being an herbalist!</p>
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gwendolyn ♥ 327@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Also, I have managed to achieve the Vanilla scent by using ground Vanilla... just a pinch goes a long way.</p>
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Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:01:42 +0000
gwendolyn ♥ 326@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Cedar Mountain Herb School:&nbsp; I appreciate your insight, especially in light of your success and experience.&nbsp; Thank you also for sharing your joy.&nbsp; I am inspired to give creams another go after reading this post.</p> <p> My interest in natural skin and hair care started about 10 years ago.&nbsp; I remember when I thought Pantene was the &quot;nice&quot; shampoo, LOL!!&nbsp; Someone gave me a sample sized bottle of Aubrey&#039;s Organics shampoos; it was the first time I&#039;d ever read the back of a shampoo bottle and could easily recognize every ingredient as natural.&nbsp; Aubrey was great- he published miniature pamphlets explaining the chemicals and preservatives in products.&nbsp; Eventually, I also learned about our skin and how it absorbs what is put on it.&nbsp; Skin and scalp issues that I had for years started to go away when I made the transition to natural products, though it wouldn&#039;t be complete until my diet changed with it.&nbsp; Now, I won&#039;t use anything synthetic on my skin or in my house.&nbsp; I just feel too good to go back.</p> <p> My favorite thing about PoppySwap is the purity I find in most of the products listed here.&nbsp; I find comfort in that.&nbsp; It feels like &quot;coming home&quot;.&nbsp; Even though I have loved my experience on etsy, there is no standard for &quot;natural&quot; and many items listed as natural are not what I would consider as natural.&nbsp; I think that if PoppySwap is a site for herbies and their goods, then that&#039;s exactly what it should be.&nbsp; Otherwise, what is the point of switching over from etsy.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know... just my two cents.</p> <p> Also, as for mica... I read that most mica is mined by children and that it has a tendency to cover their lungs... not so pretty when seen from that point of view.&nbsp; Not to say that I am perfect.&nbsp; I have purchased shimmery eye shadows and lipsticks in the past when I didn&#039;t know any different.&nbsp; But once you know, is pretty justification enough?</p> <p> So basically, in general my feeling is Live and Let Live, but not at the expense of others.&nbsp; If I were to have things my way, I would want PoppySwap to have slightly more stringent standards when it comes to &quot;natural&quot;.&nbsp; I won&#039;t put fragrance oils of any kind on my skin or in any of my household products, including candles.&nbsp; For me, it simply isn&#039;t worth it.&nbsp; Besides, now that I&#039;ve been frangrance oil free, synthetic frangrances make me feel nauseous!&nbsp; And they make my eyes water and my nose itch!! :)</p>
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Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:19:02 +0000
CedarMountainHerbSchool 321@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Short addition:</p> <p> St. John&#039;s Botanicals has vanilla EO. I&#039;ve been using it for years. I get the 5x food grade. If you call them and request a wholesale catalog (if you have a biz license), you&#039;ll find the price is very reasonable.</p> <p> <a href="http://www.stjohnsbotanicals.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stjohnsbotanicals.com/</a></p>
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CedarMountainHerbSchool 320@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Good morning, all! What a beautiful morning here in Skagit County. Everything&#039;s still quiet and dawn is just...well, dawning! Just me and my computer, reading customer and students&#039; emails and contemplating processing ceanothus root, arrowleaf balsamroot and generally getting ready for farmers market this weekend. 20 something years ago, I came across the news that 60% of what we put on our skin goes into our bloodstream. That hit me like the proverbial ton of bricks and I began to look at the labels of the products I used on my skin and the skin of my family. From that one bit of news boomed an herbal business that keeps the roof over my&nbsp; head, fills me with passion, stirs my soul, AND, it keeps me honest with my products&#039; ingredient lists. During my research way back when, I found out that synthetic scents or fragrances as they are commonly called, are frequently made with petrochemicals. Hmmmm. Since petrochemicals have been shown to be carcinogenic and cancer runs in my family, I cut them out of my personal usage and made the decision to never use them in any of my products. Since I use the products myself and since I sell my products to people I care about, whether I know them or not, I choose not to use any petrochemicals, preservatives, synthetic scents or colors in any of my products. Preservatives. You will never see things like Germaben, Germal, Optiphen, Phenonip or any other chemical preservative in&nbsp; my products. I do not use chemical emulsifiers, either.&nbsp; That being said, I do use preservatives and emulsifiers of the natural variety. Some essential oils are naturally antibacterial and antifungal, keep my products safe for long lasting use and &quot;bug&quot; free. Examples are: Lavender, Peppermint, Rosemary, Cedarwood, Patchouli. Some of the herbs themselves in my formulas are antibacterial and antifungal and I use them not only for their medicinal importance, but also for the preservative qualities. Oregon Grape root, Cedar tips, Balm of Gilead are just a few examples of these types of herbs. There are many more in our forests and fields. When I started making creams way back, I didn&#039;t particularly like the results I was getting with using aloe vera gel or juice, so I switched to using my herbal witch hazels instead. And yes, I made my own witch&nbsp; hazel with witch hazel bark I harvested and 151 alcohol. With this natural witch hazel, I can soak other herbs and get their beneficial properties as well. I love what I do and am always refining my formulas with inspiration I get from the plants themselves when I&#039;m up in the mountains harvesting and teaching my wonderful apprentices. Have a great day, everyone!</p>
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Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:40:47 +0000
kiki 312@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> What&#039;s the verdict on &quot;Phthalate Free&quot;fragrance oils??</p>
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Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:10:12 +0000
gwendolyn ♥ 249@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thank you, VioletHerbs, for so eloquantly making this important point.&nbsp; I have not put a lot of effort into preservatives of any kind, including the so-called green preservatives because I always knew that I didn&#039;t want chemical preservatives in my products or on my skin.&nbsp; I started making herbal skincare because I couldn&#039;t afford to buy it, and because no matter how hard I tried I never could find anything that was just pure and fresh for my sensitive, troubled skin.&nbsp; Over time I have learned to use vinegar extractions in my toners and plant-infused honey in my masks... both excellent natural preservatives.&nbsp; And good for the skin, too.&nbsp; I think that going all-natural means accepting... nature.&nbsp; Life eventually expires.&nbsp; That&#039;s just the way it goes, and it is the very life essence of the plants that we so love to put on our skin.&nbsp; These all natural herbal products are precious and should be highly regarded as such.&nbsp; My skin care products are as close to food as possible, made to order or in small batches.&nbsp; I keep my small batches in the fridge if they are fragile.&nbsp; I sell them in small sizes to make them affordable and to make sure they can be used in a timely manner.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think I would really like to encourage people to accept the truth of all-natural.&nbsp; In the two years I have been selling skin care I never had a single customer complain about spoilage... but I have had a lot of people thanking me for making pure products that sooth and pamper their skin and make them feel beautiful.</p>
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Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:26:42 +0000
Michelle Czolba 235@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I am going to add that I think it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to not use a &quot;proper preservation system&quot; in aqueous emulsions. Personally I seek out and make natural products because that&#039;s what I want and that is what other people want. I think as long as there is transparency (ie this product does not have synthetic preservatives and therefore does not have indefinite shelf life) that we need to give customers a choice and give them the respect to make an intelligent, independent choice based on transparency. I really think this demonstrates a greater societal need for 100% sure guarantee, insurance at all times that is contradictory in the nature of herbalism and being close to the Earth.</p>
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Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:07:37 +0000
LavenderBlue 220@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> Thank you for taking the time to review these courses. Looking at how many views this post had generated, I can only assume there is great interest in studying herbs via correspondence and on-line courses.</p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> &nbsp;</p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> I too am mid-way through Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s course. I have nothing but good things to say about it and feel one could not go wrong with it, whether a beginner &ndash; in which case it would be an incredibly exciting introduction to herbalism, or a seasoned herbalist who is looking for a different perspective and input from knowledgeable teachers. I love the way the course is presented and how well-written and fascinating the written materials are. The wealth of recipes included in each lesson is fantastic &ndash; I&#039;ve yet to use a remedy or product formulated by Rosemary Gladstar that I&#039;ve not found effective. It is true that there is some extra expense incurred when procuring the necessary herbs for the materia medica/herb profile aspect of the course; however, the overall cost of the course is very reasonable and direct experience with the herbs is perhaps the most essential part of a herbal education.</p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> &nbsp;</p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> Before I began this course, I took a much more thorough and intensive on-line program called <a href="http://www.cotr.bc.ca/practical-herbalist/">The Herbal Practitioner Program</a> offered through the College of the Rockies in Creston, BC. It is a one-year program that takes a body systems approach and focuses primarily on therapeutics. I found I got so much more than I could have expected out of this course and could not believe how much I knew by the end of it. The teacher is an experienced herbalist trained in the British Medical Herbalist tradition. I really appreciated that the on-line and homestudy aspect of the course was complemented by invaluable on-line classes three evenings a week where you interact directly with the teacher and other students, and an optional week long summer seminar at the college focusing on medicine making, wildcrafting, plant ID, and proper harvesting and processing techniques. I couldn&#039;t recommend this course enough, the only warning would be that it is for serious students who have sufficient time to devote to their studies. The next intake dates are September 12th and November 14th, 2011.</p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0in"> <br /> Again, thanks for starting this thread, I know many people who have struggled to find a correspondence course that suited them and have had some disappointments along the way, sometimes costing them a good deal of money - but there are some high quality courses out there and it would be great if others could contribute their opinions about courses they have taken to help assist with what can be a bewildering decision making process.</p>
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Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:29:24 +0000
edensong 204@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Absolutely, Danika! &nbsp;I&#039;ve had great success with it, as has Angie from The Herbarie.</p>
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Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:19:40 +0000
Danika 203@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks, Edensong.</p> <p> I&#039;m very excited to order a sample of the Leudical liquid. It&#039;s very much what I have been seeking to preserve things like local hydrosols. I did check out the Herbarie for it as soon as I read your earlier posting :) Very cool and right up my alley as it is from an edible source! I, like you, believe if you wouldn&#039;t eat it, why would you put it on your skin? But finding a way to preserve delicate ingredients naturally is a challenge. Thank you so much for sharing that with us!</p> <p> Big hugs to you in thanks, :)</p> <p> Danika.</p>
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Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:09:19 +0000
edensong 200@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I echo Kiki&#039;s sentiment. &nbsp;It&#039;s very refreshing.</p> <p> Danika, when I get a chance I&#039;ll look into it. &nbsp;You might just google something like &quot;negative Tinosan&quot;.</p> <p> The natural preservative systems and use of EOs for that purpose are something I&#039;ve been researching for a number of years, and there are many reputable individuals that support their use.</p> <p> For the Leudical Liquid, hop over to The Herbarie to read about it. &nbsp;Angie is very helpful if you have any questions.</p> <p> Thanks for everyone&#039;s input -- love the sharing!</p>
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Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:42:00 +0000
kiki 197@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I want to jump in and say thank you to everyone for how friendly and wonderful the community spirit has been. The whole purpose of this site is to expand gentle healing to the world and I think the lovely nature that everyone brings to this forum is a huge testimony to our shared mission.</p> <p> Its really touching and I am so grateful to everyone for their sincerity and humility!&nbsp;</p> <p> Luckily, I only make a product with dried herbs so the preservative issues is not keeping me up at nigh!</p> <p> Let&#039;s keep learning and sharing!</p> <p> Love, Kiki</p>
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Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:37:36 +0000
DragonflyDew 196@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi Ladies!</p> <p> Thanks so much for all the information, I too would like to know more about alternative preservative systems, not just the various ones but also how they might interact with essential oils themselves and how complete they are (ie bacterial, fungus, etc). Most of what I make to sell has no water, aloe, or hydrosols in it, but what I make to test on myself sometimes does.</p> <p> As far as &quot;co-opetition&quot; I couldn&#039;t agree more!</p> <p> Kathy</p>
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Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:38:56 +0000
Danika 195@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi Jadeswan and Edensong :)</p> <p> Jadeswan, I really like the point you brought up and since then I have begun changing my labels so they say if a plant was wildcrafted, homegrown or certified organic. It does make a difference, you are so right.</p> <p> Edensong, I&#039;m very interested in this radish root extract you speak of. I shall look into it. Gosh cosmetic making can get so complicated eh? I, like you, decided a while back to keep my products as raw and natural as possible and I can&#039;t see that changing anytime soon. If you happen to come across that info on Tinosan I would love if you could post a link to it or something like that. It&#039;s so good to share stuff like that as you really can&#039;t rely on the manufacturer to do the studies that are truly meaningful. It can be hard to find solid research if there is no financial benefit for the producer.</p> <p> I&#039;ve been having good conversations with a local lady who makes organic cleaning and personal care products here where I live. She has done extensive research on cosmetic additives so I love getting the chance to chat with her. She believes in the philosophy of &#039;co-opetition&#039; which she describes as &quot;a combination of the two words competition and co-operation. When business&#039;s in similar fields, support eachother, rather than compete with eachother, our local economy can prosper.&quot; And that is, I feel, exactly what we are doing right here, discussing and sharing without ego, for the benefit of us all. I like it!</p>
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Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:38:41 +0000
edensong 193@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Very interesting discussion and it&#039;s great that views can be shared without squabbles!</p> <p> I personally won&#039;t use&nbsp;Tinosan, because of some negative research. &nbsp;(Don&#039;t have my fingers on it at the moment.) &nbsp;I&#039;ve found Leucidal (radish root extract) to be an excellent natural source preservative that The Herbarie offers. &nbsp;Also, with research you can find many essential oils that have antimicrobial properties.</p> <p> As others have stated, natural or synthetics can have negative effects. &nbsp;Each person must take responsibility in finding what works for them. &nbsp;For example, some folks can&#039;t handle virgin coconut oil, yet we all know it has wonderful properties. &nbsp;It&#039;s just the way it is. &nbsp;Personally, I don&#039;t object to some synthetics, but I simply choose to avoid them and use only natural, organic ingredients.</p> <p> I would like to see the guidelines lean more towards natural, wildcrafted and organic.</p>
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Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:13:19 +0000
edensong 192@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> What a great review. &nbsp;Thanks so much!</p>
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Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:08:19 +0000
DragonflyDew 174@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thank you so much Jenny for such detailed reviews! I often wondered about correspondence courses for herbalism but wasn&#039;t really sure how the hands-on versus textbook learning was accomplished but I now I have a much better idea. I hope the you finish your courses in a timely matter and I&#039;m sure you have learned so much already.</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> Kathy</p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:28:57 +0000
Jadeswan 173@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> This may have less to do with Poppy Swap guidelines and more to do with sellers self-regulating but I would like to see more information on the plants used in the products. I&#039;ve been looking at infused oils of some plants I haven&#039;t had luck growing yet and in the product descriptions it doesn&#039;t say whether the plants were wildcrafted, grown by the seller or even commercial, dried plants. I find this rather frustrating as it makes a difference to me.</p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:35:36 +0000
Jadeswan 171@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I am currently taking Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s Science and Art of Herbalism correspondence course and Susun Weed&#039;s ABC of Herbalism correspondence course.</p> <p> I began Susun Weed&#039;s course about a year ago. At first I was disappointed that there was very little reading material in the course book, mostly only assignments. It began to make more sense once I recieved the herbals I chose and as I began to see how vital it was to actually work with each of the herbs. It wasn&#039;t, however, until I listened through Susun&#039;s recordings on The Seven Rivers of Healing on Herb Mentor that the course really began to fall into place for me. I highly recommend listening through that or taking the Seven Rivers course at the Wise Woman University before taking the ABC course. Understanding the Seven Rivers of Healing is essential to understanding Susun&#039;s approach. One thing I found difficult about the course is the amount of fresh plant material required to do it properly. I have a decent herb garden and was able to grow or wildcraft most of the plants but there were several I was unable to find or grow and that is what is holding me up from finishing the course. Another thing to keep in mind is that it takes quite some time to receive the course materials. Overall, I&#039;m really glad I took this course. If I had to do it over again though I think I would take the Seven Rivers course and then move straight on to the Plant Ally course or the Spirit and Practice of the Wise Woman Tradition course. The reason I say this is that Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s course covers a lot of the basic &quot;medicine making&quot; aspects and materia medica and if you are taking that as well it would be most efficient to go straight to understanding Susun&#039;s approach to plants and working with them. I intend to take more courses from Susun in the future.</p> <p> I am almost half way through Rosemary Gladstar&#039;s course. It is very thorough and professionally laid out. It has a great balance between science (chemical constituents, anatomy and physiology, etc.)and what I think of as the magic of herbalism. I think both right-brained and left-brained people would enjoy and benefit from it. There is also a good balance between doing research on the herbs and doing hands-on projects. Her directions for the projects are very clear and her recipes are wonderful. I&#039;ve been using some of her recipes for a couple of years and they are simply the best! I enjoy the homework assignment reports and questions and find it helps me review the material better. It also keeps me moving through the course to have to send in homework periodically. (There is no set time. I just try to send back the next lesson as soon as I receive the previous lesson back which is about five weeks time.) She does utilize helpers to correct the course work so anyone taking it should check over it to make sure any corrections are actually correct. In my first lesson I recieved back a correction that puzzled me because my answer was correct according to the course material. I emailed about it and got back a very helpful reply stating the correction was merely the opinion of the person reviewing my work. It wasn&#039;t a big deal but it&#039;s something to keep an eye out for. This course does require a siginificant amount of dried herbs. I have an extensive herb pantry but I still spend about $50 a lesson for supplies. I recommend ordering from somewhere you can get the herbs in small amounts. I made the mistake of ordering all my supplies from Mountain Rose Herbs at first and now I have a lot of herbs such as lobelia which I don&#039;t plan on using after the course. Now I only bulk order the herbs I plan on using more often and use somewhere like Rosemary&#039;s Garden for the other herbs so I can just order an ounce at a time. I highly recommend this course whether you are fairly new to herbs or quite experienced. It might be a little overwhelming to someone completely new but I think if you took it more slowly it would be a good place to start. Even with a lot of experience under your belt, you will get lots of inspiration and new ideas.</p> <p> I&#039;m also a member of Herb Mentor and have found it invaluable for doing herbal research (you get access to a generous variety of herbs on Herbalpedia) and for continuing my education with herbs. There is a great herbal community there as well. It is an amazing value for the money.</p> <p> A few year ago I purchased the first lesson of Demetria Clark&#039;s Heart of Herbs correspondence course. I wasn&#039;t especially impressed with it and never purchased more lessons. It may have improved since then but I thought I would mention my experience with it as well.</p>
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Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:25:51 +0000
Danika 150@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> That&#039;s very interesting, thanks Kathy! I have noticed the data gaps and definitely hear you! It certainly has been useful to me, however, in prompting further research of my own to reach my own conclusions on ingredients. I just don&#039;t like to rely on only data produced by the manufacturers of cosmetic ingredients if you know what I mean. And EWG is independant as far as I know. But anyways, I like to be aware of these things so I thank you for your response, this is great! I rarely get to discuss things like this with other herbal skin care artisans.</p> <p> Yes indeed, Tinosan contains citric acid. It is used I believe, in the process of creating the silver citrate. Much like how a jeweller electroplates silver onto other metals. Or at least, that is my understanding. So as for how much citric acid is left after processing, I&#039;m not sure. The MSDS states the pH of the undiluted product is 1.4-1.6. I would not recommend using it neat. It is not known to be a skin or eye irritant nor a skin sensitizer. It is rendered inert upon conact with the natural salts of your skin, so does not pose the risk of accumulation as colloidial silver does. It is used at a rate of 0.03% of the total volume of a blend so it&#039;s presence is very minimal. In my personal experience, I have not come across reactions.</p> <p> It is a bummer there is no raw and natural preserving systems yet but there is some great green chemistry going on creating good things that are gentle on us and our planet. But the fact that if you make hydrous products you need emulsifiers and preservatives is really what keeps me from going down the emulsion road with my products. I am totally hooked on using plant oils, plants, butters and hydrosols for now. Once you get over the whole putting oils on your skin thing, it&#039;s fantastic. :)</p> <p> These are just my opinions and thoughts, formed by my own research. I try to inform myself as much as I can before making a decision to use an ingredient. But please, use your own discretion, do your own research, make your own decisions. And share what you have learned! They don&#039;t teach you this stuff in school eh?</p> <p> This is awesome, let&#039;s keep discussing these great topics! You guys rock!</p> <p> With love,</p> <p> Danika.</p>
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Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:21:07 +0000
DragonflyDew 148@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi Danika,</p> <p> Thanks for the info on The Herbarie, I will look at some of the preservatives there. I was under the impression that Tinosan contains citric acid, of which some people have sensitivities to when used in things like bath bombs, etc. Maybe it is only in a larger percentage than what would be in the preservative so may not be a problem. Have you ever come across reactions to Tinosan?</p> <p> <strong><em>As far as the Skin Deep Cosmetic Database, I will have to part ways with you there - I believe they have way too much misinformation, conflicting ratings and data gaps to be very helpful at all.</em></strong></p> <p> Have a wonderful, nature-filled day!</p> <p> Kathy</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> &nbsp;</p>