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Poppy Swap Forum » Forum: Herb Cultivation and Plant Identification - Recent Posts http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/forum/herb-cultivation-and-plant-identification We Bring People Herbs. en-US Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:43:37 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/search.php greenjourney on "Let's talk about growing Turmeric?" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/lets-talk-about-growing-turmeric#post-3767
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Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:33:20 +0000
greenjourney 3767@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <img alt="" src="http://greenjourneyseeds.tumblr.com/post/62419090660/turmeric-root-harvested-this-week-from-a-second" /><img alt="" src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/f074dab52d8e0872e08bd5ac42837459/tumblr_mtsg89NJzz1s6ct43o1_500.jpg" /></p> <p><div class="copy"></p> <p> Turmeric root harvested this week from a second plant we grew outdoors this summer. Protected by an open-ended hoop house, it did not flower like the plant in the greenhouse. Looks like it concentrated its vital energy on the medicine below!</p> <p> Happy harvest!</p> <p></div> </p>
greenjourney on "Let's talk about growing Turmeric?" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/lets-talk-about-growing-turmeric#post-3474
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Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:25:56 +0000
greenjourney 3474@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <img alt="" src="http://24.media.tumblr.com/80753a426a15c0228c59fc27e2bb5361/tumblr_msbcmfdAGi1s6ct43o1_400.jpg" /></p> <p> This Turmeric flower is budding up to realize it&rsquo;s full glory very soon! Check out my <a href="http://greenjourneyseeds.tumblr.com/post/58820181824/dig-this" title="Dig this!">previous post </a>to see what I mean. This plant is making it&rsquo;s own off-shoots which can be divided for new plants.</p> <p> Love &amp; Happiness, Aline</p>
greenjourney on "Let's talk about growing Turmeric?" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/lets-talk-about-growing-turmeric#post-3470
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Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:07:44 +0000
greenjourney 3470@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> We&#039;ve had some success at growing <strong>Turmeric </strong><em>Curcuma longa</em> in our solar greenhouse and would like to share these tips with you. I&#039;ll lead you to <a href="http://tmblr.co/ZfzOxssnzBz0">our tumblr post</a> for a brief illustrated article, and hope you&#039;ll add your insights, experiences or questions to this forum thread. This year&#039;s plant is bigger than ever, and hasn&#039;t flowered as yet. Oh, sweet anticipation!</p> <p> Love, Aline</p>
greenjourney on "Safe Seeds" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/safe-seeds#post-1038
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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:29:43 +0000
greenjourney 1038@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Do you know about the safe seed pledge? Begun by Tom Stearns of High Mowing Seeds, this is a voluntary pledge which seed companies can sign on to, which states:</p> <p> <em>The Safe Seed Pledge:<br /> &quot;Agriculture and seeds provide the basis upon which our lives depend. We must protect this foundation as a safe and genetically stable source for future generations. For the benefit of all farmers, gardeners and consumers who want an alternative, We pledge that we do not knowingly buy or sell genetically engineered seeds or plants.<br /> The mechanical transfer of genetic material outside of natural reproductive methods and between genera, families or kingdoms, poses great biological risks as well as economic, political, and cultural threats. We feel that genetically engineered varieties have been insufficiently tested prior to public release. More research and testing is necessary to further assess the potential risks of genetically engineered seeds. Further, we wish to support agricultural progress that leads to healthier soils, genetically diverse agricultural ecosystems and ultimately healthy people and communities.&quot;</em></p> <p> A current list of seed companies who have signed onto this pledge can be seen at this link:</p> <p> <a href="http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/viewpage.aspx?pageid=261">http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/viewpage.aspx?pageid=261</a></p> <p> If you scroll down to Oregon, you will see Green Journey Seeds with a direct link to our poppy swap store. Now I just need to copy this pledge into our storefront, here.</p> <p> Tamara, I looked over Baker Creek Seeds (beautiful) Catalogue, and found a huge variety of Heirlooms. Reading the fine print we learn that their seeds are grown by about 100 different growers. I&#039;m guessing that the problems you are experiencing may stem from a lack of oversight on their part. I guess that many of the seeds may also be grown outside your region. It may be helpful to ask Baker Creek for a list of regionally grown seeds?</p> <p> Many folks assume that seed companies grow all the seeds they offer. This is far from true! Even the family owned seed companies, buy and resell (in their own packets) a large part of what they offer. Very few sell only seeds which they grow themselves like us. And many buy from companies engaged in biotech simply because the variety patents are owned by them. (which brings us back to Kiki&#039;s original post&nbsp; which began this thread).</p> <p> Squash family seeds are particularly vulnerable to out-crossing and special isolation measures are required to ensure pure seeds. In addition the squash fruits are maternal, and even though these may appear true to type, the seeds carry the genes of both the parents and can produce variable off-spring, which are only seen in the next generation.</p> <p> Tamara, you might consider introducing heirloom varieties which are not currently grown in your region, by trying them out in your garden. After several successful years, you would be able to offer newly adapted seeds (to the Ozarks) and have something unique to offer. Seed Savers Exchange can be a good source, but again not all the thousands of growers will get it right all the time. Only 2-3 years of trials can ensure that our seeds are true to type.</p> <p> Thanks for bringing back this important discussion on my favorite subject of seeds, Tamara, &amp; I wish you the best of luck in your future seed saving!</p> <p> <em>In seeds we trust,</em> Aline</p>
tamarasherbes on "Safe Seeds" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/safe-seeds#post-1014
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Sat, 08 Sep 2012 08:20:41 +0000
tamarasherbes 1014@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks for the info!</p> <p> I think you are right and I should let them know. I would hope that someone would tell me, were I in their shoes. It wasn&#039;t a total loss, as we have so many squash we can&#039;t seem to give it away, and many of my friends are happy for the free seeds I gave them!</p> <p> Off to shop for seeds now...</p>
greenjourney on "Safe Seeds" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/safe-seeds#post-939
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Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:03:27 +0000
greenjourney 939@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I LOVE SEED SAVERS!</p> <p> Tamara, you are so lucky to be in the Ozarks! Here&#039;s a link to the <a href="http://onegarden.org/membership.html">Ozark Seed Bank</a>, a project of the Ozark Botanical Garden in Brixey, MO. I haven&#039;t any direct experience with their seeds, as I prefer to get locally grown &amp; adapted seeds from the Willamette Valley seedfolk.</p> <p> They offer a guide called <u>Basic Gardening in the Ozarks</u>, here&#039;s that contact info:</p> <p> One-Garden, Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:info@one-garden.org">info@one-garden.org</a><br /> Box 1, General Delivery, Brixey, MO 65618<br /> Phone: 417-679-1003<br /> Fax: 720-247-3419</p> <p> I would have loved to have been an apprentice at Elixir Farm years ago when we started our seed business. This was our original source of some of the Chinese Medicinal Herb seeds which we continue to grow to this day. Their seeds are great, and Ozark adapted. They are associated with Stephen Foster. This link to an inspiring <a href="http://www.one-garden.org/features/apprentice.htm">article</a> about Elixer may interest you?</p> <p> Sorry to hear you had such bad results from Baker Creek Seeds. I feel sure they would like to hear your story, and address your concerns. I always say that if a customer has issues with my seeds, I want to be the first to know! This is an opportunity for them to improve on their techniques or varieties, and is better for everyone in the long run.</p> <p> Hope you can at least eat the squash, if not save the seeds!</p> <p> Best of luck to you, Aline</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> &nbsp;</p>
SpiritHorseHerbals on "Safe Seeds" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/safe-seeds#post-936
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Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:23:46 +0000
SpiritHorseHerbals 936@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> And don&#039;t forget to consider starting and/or participating in your local seed lending library! Adapted seed rocks!</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> Kristie</p>
tamarasherbes on "Safe Seeds" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/safe-seeds#post-931
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Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:43:08 +0000
tamarasherbes 931@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks for that list!&nbsp; It comes at a very good time for me.&nbsp; I own a small farm and have recently begun saving my own seeds, but we purchased nearly all of our start-up seeds from Baker Creek.&nbsp; We chose them for several reasons, but one of the main reasons is that they are local (within 100 miles, which is pretty close in this rural area).&nbsp;</p> <p> I have to say that this past year I have been very disappointed with their seeds, though.&nbsp; Many of the seeds we purchased over the last year have had very low germination rates and have produced fruits that are deformed; ie, several of our squash plants are producing Siamese Twins, or odd squash that are growing leaves down the entire length of the fruit; what was supposed to be Indian Prince calendula, weren&#039;t, etc.</p> <p> Perhaps this was just a bad year for them, but it has caused me to look for other seed sources (especially for fruit/veggie seeds) and it means that we won&#039;t be able to save seeds for selling this year.&nbsp; In speaking to other local farmers who also purchased seeds from them lately, I have discovered that my story is not unique.</p> <p> If anyone has any personal experience with seed buying from other companies I would love some recommendations!&nbsp; I am in the Midwest (the Missouri Ozarks), and would prefer to purchase seeds from companies in my geographical area, as it seems they tend to produce better for me, but I am open to companies outside of the Midwest if they have a good reputation for producing true-to-species, and have proven to have good germination rates.</p> <p> &nbsp;</p>
reesadoo on "American Ginseng: identification and harvesting" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/american-ginseng-identification-and-harvesting#post-794
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Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:32:32 +0000
reesadoo 794@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> The information is very interesting.&nbsp;</p>
greenjourney on "Holy Basil seeds free with your purchase in May!" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/holy-basil-seeds-free-with-your-purchase-in-may#post-709
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Tue, 01 May 2012 09:20:51 +0000
greenjourney 709@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> We choose to give our customers a free packet of Holy Basil &quot;Tulsi&quot;seeds this month, May 2012, with any purchase from our store! Thank you and Happy Spring!</p> <p> Here&#039;s the link for product details on this easy to grow herb...<a href="http://www.poppyswap.com/detail.asp?id=2676">Holy Basil seed packet</a></p> <p> If you can grow sweet basil <em>(Ocimum basilicum) </em>your garden, you already have the know how to grow holy basil <em>(Ocimum sanctum)</em>. Even though the two are different species, their cultivation needs are alike.</p>
SpiritHorseHerbals on "From Seed to Seed: Cultivating Echinacea purpurea" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/from-seed-to-seed-cultivating-echinacea-purpurea#post-678
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Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:31:58 +0000
SpiritHorseHerbals 678@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Great post! Thank you so much!</p>
greenjourney on "From Seed to Seed: Cultivating Echinacea purpurea" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/from-seed-to-seed-cultivating-echinacea-purpurea#post-677
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Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:07:13 +0000
greenjourney 677@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> <img alt="Echinacea purpurea seed packet" src="http://greenjourneyblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/echipackfrontweb1.jpg?w=200&amp;h=337" />&nbsp; A traditional Native American medicinal herb, Echinacea&nbsp; is well-known to modern American and European herbalists today. Nine Echinacea species are native to the U.S. Of these, <a href="http://www.poppyswap.com/detail.asp?id=1432&amp;n=Echinacea-Purple-Coneflower-E-purpurea-40-seeds">Echinacea purpurea</a> is the easiest to grow and most adaptable to various locations. The genus name comes from the Greek word for hedgehog, referring to the spiny appearance of the flower&rsquo;s cone-shaped center. It is within this orange center that the seeds form and mature. We wait to harvest the seed crop until after the &ldquo;cones&rdquo; start to turn black in the fall.</p> <p> &nbsp; Echinacea is antibiotic, antiviral and stimulates the immune system. This lovely perennial grows 3-4 feet tall and attracts bumblebees and butterflies. Echinacea provides medicinal roots, leaves and flowers. It usually flowers in its second summer, dies back in winter and returns each spring. This is not a hybrid Echinacea, and will produce plants true to the native type from seeds. We have been growing this important medicinal for our own use and for seeds for over fifteen years.</p> <p> &nbsp; Seed Sowing:&nbsp; Sow seeds in pots indoors in early spring, and transplant to a sunny, well-drained garden spot in early summer. This Echinacea seed does not need any cold treatment prior to germination. January 2012 germ tests at a temperature of 70-80 degrees provided by a propagation heat mat gave 95% germination in 7 days. At cooler temperatures, 2-3 weeks to germ is more common.</p> <p> &nbsp;Seed Saving:&nbsp; Seeds are ready when the petals fade and the cones begin to blacken. Cut the flower stalks and dry indoors. Seeds fall out of the cones with a bit of rubbing. Best seed storage is cool, dry and dark.</p> <p> &nbsp;Please save your seeds of this herb which is at risk in the wild and pass it on.</p> <p> <strong>FREE gift packet of Echinacea purpurea seeds to our Poppy Swap customers in April</strong><em><strong> with our thanks!</strong></em></p> <p> Sharing is Oneness,</p> <p> Aline</p>
jamesfromthewoods on "American Ginseng: identification and harvesting" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/american-ginseng-identification-and-harvesting#post-671
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Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:34:54 +0000
jamesfromthewoods 671@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Great video!</p> <p> Here&#039;s a clip about New England dwarf ginseng from a friend and great ethnobotanist, Arthur Haines (arthurhaines.com). He is an extremely knowledgeable plant teacher, and has been described as a walking encyclopedia. His Maine-based plant school, the Delta Institute, is listed on the PoppySwap community map too!</p> <p> <a href="http://youtu.be/7-lADScTtmA" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/7-lADScTtmA</a></p> <p> happy hunting!</p> <p> james</p>
kiki on "American Ginseng: identification and harvesting" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/american-ginseng-identification-and-harvesting#post-627
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Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:50:21 +0000
kiki 627@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Here&#039;s a neat video on Appalachian Ginseng:</p> <p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82nz-gCsyYo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82nz-gCsyYo</a></p>
Michelle Czolba on "Ethics of Wildcrafted Herbs" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/ethics-of-wildcrafted-herbs#post-510
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Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:44:47 +0000
Michelle Czolba 510@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Oh, I long to be back in the country but do really appreciate the cultural diversity in the city ;) Reading through the post got me thinking about wildcrafting when I did live in the country; though I still do in the city much more precaution about dog pee spots, pollution, legalities, etc needs to be heeded.</p> <p> I am a harvester of more common plants, weeds and other abundant plants, and even so will not wipe the colony out. That just seems disrespectful to me. However, with berries, fruits and vegetables I will harvest most leaving a few for wildlife. My other thought is that when plants are not harvested, they die and go back to the Earth and when they are harvested, if we are composting, the marc also goes back to the Earth. So the cycle continues. I think it&#039;s important to consider intention, biology, ecology and how much I need. I think that many plants want to be harvested and used. I was always taught to harvest 1/3 or to harvest and leave enough so that it doesn&#039;t look like any has been taken and that second point works for me.</p> <p> Jim, your question about a weed versus tree is a good one. On the level of life, in what is alive, well yeah they both are. I think from an ecological perspective there is a big difference though, because the tree provides for much more other life, animals, water system, soil nutrients through leaf decomposition, filtering pollution, etc whereas the weeds/single plant doesn&#039;t have the same breadth of provision for other life. Which also gets into an ethical spiral ;)</p>
gwendolyn ♥ on "Ethics of Wildcrafted Herbs" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/ethics-of-wildcrafted-herbs#post-256
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Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:07:39 +0000
gwendolyn ♥ 256@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Danika, I would like to respond to your post:&nbsp; you said you wondered why you didn&#039;t feel compelled to try and educate this man about the ethics of wildharvesting.&nbsp; I would like to say that I think your initial response- a sense to protect the land, the plants, and the best interests of your family were spot on.&nbsp; Change takes time- and often more than one voice.&nbsp; If you feel like attempting to educate this man, then do so.&nbsp; But my mother always taught me that actions speak louder than words, and I would never reveal my treasured harvesting places to anyone that I felt was ungrateful or irresponsible towards nature and the Earth.&nbsp; That is just my two cents- I too am learning to trust my instincts and make no apologies for choosing to protect the land first.</p> <p> As for wildharvesting... I have only just begun to really wild harvest within the last few years.&nbsp; I did overharvest in the beginning- not to the destruction of the plant.&nbsp; I took more than I needed overall, over estimating how much I would use or give away.&nbsp; It didn&#039;t take me long to realize the waste, and the next time I went out I took much much less.&nbsp; I love being in the wilderness, and I feel so gifted when I can come home with a plant.&nbsp; Often times, I go out and see some of my favorite plants, but I don&#039;t feel compelled to do more than sit with it or touch it, and I come home empty-handed but with a heart full of healing plant energy.&nbsp; I have learned to trust the abundance of nature, trusting that the plant will be available when I need more than to keep company with it.&nbsp; When I do wild-harvest, it is with care.&nbsp; I never take more than just a little from each plant and never more than I know I will use.&nbsp; I don&#039;t have a problem with taking as much I will need to last me a season -if there is enough.&nbsp; When the plant is in a smaller stand, I take a far smaller amount, if any.&nbsp; I do feel that while I&#039;m wild-harvesting that I&#039;m living up to my human legacy as inherited by my ancient ancestors, and I will not deny myself this gift.&nbsp; Wild-harvesting strengthens my health and my spirit exponentially.</p> <p> However, after reading some of these posts, I realize that I still have a lot to learn about my local ecology and about the propogation of plants to increase its health.&nbsp; I trust that my harvests are not causing any harm whatsoever to my local ecology, but am I strengthening it?&nbsp; That is something I could stand to learn more about.&nbsp; No doubt I will be learning over my lifetime.&nbsp; I am grateful for the wisdom that I have picked up over the years from the posts and writings of more experienced herbalists, and I feel that their wisdom most certainly put me on the right track in regards to ethics.&nbsp; Experience is helping to hone my sensitivity to the plant, and further education will no doubt enhance my wild crafting skills.&nbsp; However, I must learn to forgive myself for any mistakes I have made- for example, I wish I had pulled out more Blessed Thistle, which is an invasive herb in these parts.&nbsp; Now, I see its seeds scattered all over the wild blackberry, and I wonder if next year will welcome me with an invasive stand of Blessed Thistle wiping out some more of the wild native plant communities.&nbsp; I saw stands of Hummingbird Sage and Nettle be wiped out earlier this year before I had a chance to do anything about it thanks to the over-grazing of cattle and the mowing of plants for wildfire abatement, which helps to create the ideal environments for invasive plants.&nbsp; I wish I would have had more confidence and knowledge and understanding to act when I did have a chance later in the year.&nbsp; Ecology is complex and sensitive, and I have much to learn.&nbsp;</p>
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Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:55:26 +0000
SoulGardens 179@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi, I&#039;ve been wildcrafting for over 40 years, all my life actually. I was brought up naturally picking form the wild, first in South America, then in the northeast of this country. I was taught to avoid plants that were poisonous, or might have poisonous look-alikes, like Queen Anne&#039;s lace. I was also taught to be careful of plants that were endangered.</p> <p> I have always had respect for the plants and loved them immensely. They have saved my sanity over and over again.<span>&nbsp;</span></p> <p> I&nbsp;started using wild plants seriously when I was 16 and learned how to dye wool&nbsp;with them, and also read Euell Gibbons&#039; &quot;Stalking the Wild Asparagus.&quot; My dad got me into the wild foods.</p> <p> By the time I started using more of the plants, I guess I already had the basics instilled in me and it only made sense to treat them and the environment with respect and consideration.</p> <p> I have many times collected more than I needed at the time, not knowing what I might need later, and sometimes just wanting more, more, more of that beautiful plant.</p> <p> I have also made more medicine than I needed and wondered what to do with it.</p> <p> But here&#039;s the thing--often I have been grateful to find an herb or medicine in my cupboard after some years, now finding that I or someone around me needs it. And then I go &quot;So that&#039;s why I have that!&quot;</p> <p> I&#039;ve also found that when I have harvested a plant and not used it, and it just sat around hitting my eye, and I felt guilty not using it, that it was still important. I was around the energy of the plant, I got more familiar with it. I found that that was part of my process of getting to know plants.</p> <p> And also, I learned from one of Juliette deBaricli Levy&#039;s (sp?!) books that when she had old herbs, she just mulched her garden with them! So I have done that with herbs I deem too old, or at least they go into the compost bucket to be returned to the earth.</p> <p> I think the others who have posted already have said pretty much&nbsp;everything that needs to be said about wild-crafting.</p> <p> But my little piece is that I think where there is an abundance and it can be done resposibly, wild-crafting is just fine. I get great joy from doing so, and wouldn&#039;t have enough herbs if I didn&#039;t. I&#039;d rather wildcraft and use fresh (or dry my own)&nbsp;than order dried herbs.</p> <p> I have moved several times in the last few years and would have had a very difficult time with only gardens to rely on.</p> <p> Also, I agree with Jim MacDonald that the plants are here to interact with us and share their gifts. I am immensely grateful to be able to partake of their offered bounty.</p> <p> Iris Weaver</p>
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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:56:53 +0000
jim mcdonald 175@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I&#039;m a wildcrafter - I grow somethings (milky oats and lemon balm and some mint and wood betony), but I wildcraft most of what I use. &nbsp;One of the &quot;rules&quot; I have about it is that you don&#039;t gather things unless you know you can do so in a good way. &nbsp;Sometimes, collecting can increase plant populations; I do root cuttings when I collect solomon&#039;s seal, and there&#039;s close to twice as many plants growing there as when I began collecting. &nbsp;Sometimes you kill the plant. &nbsp;That&#039;s really just the way life is - we kill to eat, and even kill to heal. &nbsp;I think its interesting the way we as people value life. &nbsp;Most of us will dig a dandelion root - killing the plant - but get all squeamish about the idea of cutting a tree down to harvest. &nbsp;Yeah, in many cases we can prune branches instead, but that may, in some cases, make the tree sick. &nbsp;In some cases cutting it might be better for the habitat. &nbsp;But why do we feel differently about a tree than a weed? &nbsp;Because its bigger? &nbsp;Older (it may not be)? &nbsp;These feelings are good to sit with, good to go into. &nbsp;Good to find what the answers are ~to you~.</p> <p> I live in deep relationship with my land. &nbsp;I can tell what feels good to harvest and what doesn&#039;t. &nbsp;For around 15 years I&#039;ve been teaching people how to use and identify wild plants, with a sense of trust that if I teach them in a good way, they won&#039;t just ~take~. &nbsp;And though I know there&#039;s no way to know if one day someone will take advantage of the land because they feel they ~need~ something, in that 15 years I haven&#039;t seen anyone do so. &nbsp;</p> <p> Outside of our relationship with the land and plants, we have to recghonize their relationship with us. &nbsp;Wild plants aren&#039;t &quot;ours&quot; to use, but they ~are~ here to be used by us. &nbsp;When we neglect them, we take from them a part of what they are, a part of what they&#039;re here to do, which is provide for the land and all of its children. &nbsp;not using wild plants is perhaps akin to not asking for and using the knowledge, wisdom and experience of our elders. &nbsp;It creates a loss in both.</p> <p> Matthew Wood has a great essay on wildcrafting I deeply resonate with on this aspect of wildcrafting:</p> <p> <a href="http://www.herbcraft.org/wildcrafting">http://www.herbcraft.org/wildcrafting</a></p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:40:13 +0000
Danika 172@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Oh Kathy, what a timely topic!</p> <p> I am a vendor at my local farmers market and there is a young man there that is a professional mushroom forager selling morel&#039;s and other mushrooms when they are in season. I got to talking to him about the mushrooms and the pickers and he painted a picture of competitive groups of organized pickers that wipe out entire areas of morel&#039;s. He is fully aware that they grow after forest fires and the role they play is to alkalanize the soil so other plant life can grow again and yet thousands of pounds of morels are being stripped and removed from the forests and sold to restaurants and city folks as I type right now!</p> <p> He is a great guy but very much a forager for the money he can make from the mushrooms. When I had mentioned I gathered wild plants for food and medicine he immediately wanted to pick my brains for info, he wants to start harvesting wild plants to sell too! I kind of froze up with a lump in my throat and shyed away. I brushed him off and mumbled something about field guides and such. The thought of someone in my community actively seeking to capitilize on the wild plants my family depends on to boost our nutrition intake and help us through illness made me feel awful! Perhaps I should have tried to educate him on the very ethics you lovely herb folks are discussing, I don&#039;t know why I didn&#039;t or why I froze up. I had visions of hoards of harvesters wiping out areas of sweet cicely, violets and nettles.</p> <p> The natural world is already so exploited, I can&#039;t think of any herbalist I know of that is not incredibly in tune with the ecosystems they rely upon and that is why I can&#039;t bear to share anything about the location or uses of wild foods and medicines with those that would like to exploit it.</p> <p> What should I tell this young man? What do you guys do in these situations? I find it quite disturbing....</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:01:44 +0000
kiki 161@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Oh!! #5!!!</p> <p> 5. make sure i dry/store the plants properly and use them 100%</p> <p> Big one, Good4You. Big one. I know the pain of failing there!! It is so important to be prepared on all ends before even approaching the plant. Thanks for the reminder!</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:04:29 +0000
good4you 160@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> greetings! i think wild harvesting is fine at the scale we work at. i believe the problem is more corporate driven, when popular interest is reached over a specific herb. i personally have patches of herbs i bike to in my town. they are very wild areas and i only pick an herb when it is prolific and joyously over abundant in an area. red clover blossoms, yarrow, horsetail leaf and dandelions to name a few. i feel it is our human right to accept gifts from nature. i would rather pick a bundle of red clover blossoms in the wild then have it shipped to me. i think wisdom comes with age and each of us is taught more and more every year about natures secrets and how to accept/use them responsibily. if i harvest a flower or a leaf, i:</p> <p> 1. make sure i&#039;m not hurting the plant so it can still grow</p> <p> 2. take only a few of the part i need from each plant, sometimes just one leaf or one flower.</p> <p> 3. make sure the area is away from a road</p> <p> 4. recieve a message from the plant world it&#039;s ok or time to harvest</p> <p> 5. make sure i dry/store the plants properly and use them 100%</p> <p> this is what i currently do. i think it&#039;s ok to wild harvest on the scale we do it here. each one of us herbalists has a circle we take care of, and i don&#039;t believe we on poppy swap will ever harm nature for it.</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:14:10 +0000
anchasta 159@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I second these wise women who responded before me...just use intelligence, consideration, and a sense of thankfulness and responsibility when harvesting and you should be fine.</p> <p> My hill is rife with blackberry brambles, and I harvest a ton of berries, but leave some for every couple I take to encourage reseeding and leave food for the birds.&nbsp; I have a ton of yarrow that grows wild in my area, but instead of harvesting all wild, I took one plant home last spring and gave it a home. It grew much larger and hardier than it&#039;s wild cousin, and I&#039;ve since dried over 5oz of yarrow flowers, and there&#039;s more to come!</p> <p> Ramps and ginseng and mushrooms are overharvested in this area (western north carolina), and those of us who know and care are quite aware of the problem...but too many others just take and take, assuming there is plenty for everyone.</p> <p> When I cut mullien from ditches or railroad sides, I tend to take just the top of the plant and leave the root to grow again.</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:22:35 +0000
herbalrevolution 157@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hello~</p> <p> Kathy I can relate.&nbsp; I spent a handful of years as an outdoor educator and trip leader I spoke of leaving things as they lay and shared leave no trace practices.&nbsp; Sharing with kids to take what they needed in the garden and surrounding fields and to be thankful and respectful.&nbsp; To not take what was not needed and to leave the rest and I feel the same way about wild gathering in some cases.&nbsp;</p> <p> I do wildgather plants every season and I feel that anyone that wishes to wildgather needs to have an awareness of there local ecosystem where they live or where we are gathering.&nbsp; I feel that in order to wild gather we need to understand the natural habitat of these plants there life cycles and concider the impact that will be made if some is taken.&nbsp; I also believe that this is a time for our&nbsp; own internal awarness...wild gathering is a time were we need to tap into our inherent ancestral wisdom.&nbsp; Knowing right well when we should or shouldn&#039;t be gathering...because there will be plenty of times when there seems to be abundance.&nbsp; It is in those times of abundance that can be the greatest lesson on knowing how to harvest ethically and from within.&nbsp;</p> <p> I also believe that the plants want to have a relationship with us and share there brilliance and nourishment as Kiki mentioned also.&nbsp; We just need to be keep present and aware.&nbsp; I also am a huge advocate of taking a very small grouping of a healthy stand of plants or wild seed gathering to then grow in the garden in which to create thriving plant communities...again this needs to be down in a very sensative way that is steeped in deep awareness.</p> <p> United Plant Savers <a href="http://www.unitedplantsavers.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unitedplantsavers.org/</a> is a fabulous organization I encourage you to check them out.&nbsp; One thing that we can do for the local plants communites that are on the decline is to start re-establishing them ourselves and create conversation within our communities.&nbsp;</p> <p> There are many places that have been depleted due to over harvesting.&nbsp; From peope harvesting from there head and not from there hearts and this is what needs to be shared.&nbsp; We need to remember how to gather ethically and to pass this knowledge on as it was done in the past.&nbsp; We need to re-educate ourselves and then share that with our friends...neighbors and children.&nbsp; I feel that people in general want to see plants thrive.</p> <p> Good Luck Kathy I don&#039;t know if I even really answered you questions but I am I really glad that</p> <p> you have started this conversation and I will contiunue to sit with this topic.</p> <p> Enjoy the day!</p> <p> Kathi</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:22:01 +0000
TintinaFibres 156@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I am a little new to wildcrafting but here are my thoughts from my experience in college taking Environmental Science and from using plants for natural dyeing and herbal products. &nbsp;I think if you leave most of what you find intact it is okay unless it is invasive. &nbsp;For example, I use tansy to make a nice yellow on wool but it is invasive up here. &nbsp;I just take however much I want of that. &nbsp;I wouldn&#039;t do that with rose petals. &nbsp;I would take maybe a couple of petals off each flower. &nbsp;I know a lady in town who will make jars and jars of rose petal syrup and I am sure she just de-flowers the bushes. &nbsp;That bothers me. &nbsp;To add another dimension to the debate I think it is better to harvest from the wild responsibily than plants foreign plants in our gardens and allow them to go to seed disrupting the local environment. &nbsp;However, in the case of lichen dyeing which is something I want to try I will only harvest lichen off my firewood or lichen that is blowing around. &nbsp;They are just too precious to disturb in my opinion. &nbsp;In fact, it was seeing lichens on logs going into the wood stove that inspired me to learn more about it as it just seemed a waste to me.</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:48:07 +0000
kiki 155@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi Kathy,</p> <p> Such an important topic!! I can&#039;t wait to hear from everyone.&nbsp;</p> <p> I harvest mostly on our island. I have areas that I return to every year. Many of my favorite herbs are within walking distance from my cabin. After twenty years of seeing herbs sit in jars on shelves, I tend to harvest very sparingly. I won&rsquo;t go harvest out of curiosity, just because its the right season or to create a storehouse of medicines. If I don&rsquo;t have a very specific reason or use for the materials in the present moment I won&rsquo;t gather. If its a new plant or an old friend that I meet while out in the woods, I may gather a small amount of the plant so that I can spend more time with it, but I don&rsquo;t consider that harvesting, its more like receiving a very precious gift.</p> <p> But it&#039;s so complex! For example, I came home Monday and my sweet neighbor had placed a small vessel of the most lovely wild rose buds on my porch for me. We had walked up to our stand the day before and I had gathered a palm full to bring home for a weekend guest. Rose is one of my totem herbs and when I saw that little vessel, I felt so graced. Rose in my tea!! Immediately my little greedy mind thought....I should harvest a ton right now so I have rose for my tea all year this year. But while I know that the source is substantial enough in our woods and it would not hurt the plant, I&#039;m genuinely not driven in that direction. I like the absolute delight of this little window of rose every year and I like the experience of going to harvest when the plant is calling me in the moment.</p> <p> I don&#039;t think your statement is irrational at all Kathy. It has the beautiful quality of consideration. It also shows consciousness that is larger than just your own personal life. It&#039;s also entirely TRUE! We can&#039;t all assume that we have full access to nature all the time.</p> <p> My hope of course is that the plants are observed closely in their habitat and that the health and vitality of the stand is honored before we reap its rewards.&nbsp;In truth, I believe the plants want relationship with us and that they want to bring their best to the synergy that is the potential of all biological relations. Its up to us to not be bullies or consumers in the fragile balance of a healthy relationship but it is also up to us to take down barriers and enter into relationship with these beauties. If we don&#039;t commune with the plants because we are afraid of hurting them, we won&#039;t really know how to care for them.....because we won&#039;t really know them! We will also be denying them the chance to give. And we all know how good it feels to give......!!!</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> I am so interested to hear from everyone!</p>
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Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:37:26 +0000
DragonflyDew 154@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Hi all you lovely herbalists!</p> <p> I have a question that I ponder a lot, and that is how do you all feel about the ethics of taking plants (herbs or otherwise) from the wild? I ask because as a lifelong naturalist/environmentalist/gardener type I&#039;ve always followed the mantra of &quot;Take only pictures, leave only footprints.&quot; I&#039;ve taught that to my children, friends, relatives, blog readers and any other person that goes hiking with me. So, understandably I have a feeling of guilt when I consider taking any part of plant when on my journey, even though I know Mother Nature loves for us to use her gifts. Perhaps it&#039;s the engineer in me that calculates out in my brain that fact that if every person who sees something takes &quot;just one&quot; piece of plant, one rock, one bird feather, etc. then there will be none left. It&#039;s an irrational thought, but I think it just the same! All the plants I use currently come from my Certifed Wildlife Habitat garden and yard, from dried herbs I purchase, or from the many plants I propagate myself.</p> <p> So, who can help me out with some interesting perspectives on herbal wildcrafting? I&#039;d love to hear your answers!!</p> <p> Kathy from Dragonfly Dew</p>
kiki on "Herbs for Sustainability" http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/topic/herbs-for-sustainability#post-119
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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:42:42 +0000
kiki 119@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> I got to meet Linda last weekend at the Mother Earth News fair. This is a great article to read as you prepare to work with herbs:</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> <a href="http://www.moonwiseherbs.com/sustainability.htm">Herbs for Sustainability</a></p> <p> Thanks Linda!!</p>
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Sun, 15 May 2011 20:01:15 +0000
SueK 87@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> Thanks to Kiki for posting the Safe Seeds site. &nbsp;I have been advocating for GMO legislation and as an avid gardener, order from several of the listed companies. Many of these suppliers either small businesses, non-profits and at least one is employee owned.</p> <p> If you are looking for medicinal herb seeds and plants, family owned/managed Horizon Herbs in Oregon offers a huge variety with some delightful and helpful descriptions. Check out their site.</p>
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Sun, 01 May 2011 02:59:13 +0000
kiki 25@http://community.poppyswap.com/forum/ <p> This list of reputable places to get seeds from has been floating around fb. It&#039;s long but I&#039;m sure not complete by any means.</p> <p> <a href="http://inspirationgreen.com/organic-vegetables-start-out-as-seed.html">http://inspirationgreen.com/organic-vegetables-start-out-as-seed.html</a></p> <p> love, kiki</p>